Dr.BariatricHTX said:The mechanism is more central than most summaries suggest.
Pushing back on Dr.BariatricHTX here. The "earlier than weight loss explains" argument is weaker than this thread makes it sound. Blood pressure and inflammatory markers move fast and are downstream of early weight loss, so the mechanism is not as cleanly separable as the summaries imply.
Worth separating that from the pharmacology, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.
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Dr.AddMedPHL said:The "earlier than weight loss explains" argument is weaker than this thread makes it sound.
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Browse GL BiochemOne thing that is still open after pam_columbus’s answer:
Which effects tachyphylax and which persist, because the answer explains why tolerability improves while the appetite effect keeps working?
Closing the loop on my own question.
Update — tachyphylaxis to the gastric effect, persistence of the appetite effect. Two curves, and I had been watching the wrong one.